Comments on: THE WINNER of the 2010 Health Care Summit

By: ramben66

ramben66 — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:26 +0000

There is no such …
There is no such thing as a “free market” absent of the government’s action.

Government mints the coins and money we use and establishes the standards and measures that products are measured by. Government sets the rules about what is a legitimate trade, and what is force or fraud. Government provides the police to catch those who don’t follow those rules, the courts to judge them, the jails to hold them.

No Government means we meet to barter and I kill you and take your goods because I can.

By: carltonjhodge

carltonjhodge — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:25 +0000

Did you get it in …
Did you get it in your e-mail?

By: ramben66

ramben66 — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:25 +0000

The waiting times …
The waiting times in these countries are at most a few weeks more than ours, and often comparable. People here get turned down for procedures every day, by THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES. And not so that someone who needs care more urgently can get it, just so that some CEO can make another million.

Here’s a question for you: How many people go bankrupt from medical bills in the US? Over 700,000 per year. How many in Canada or almost any of the countries with Universal health care? NONE.

By: ramben66

ramben66 — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:25 +0000

The U.S. has 20 …
The U.S. has 20 times the population of Canada. We have many times more doctors, and many (too many) of them are specialists. Just by numbers alone, we are likely to have a few of the top specialists in the world.

And when the PM of Canada came here, part of that was subsidized by his government health care plan.

A republic is a form of government. Socialism is a form of economic system. Sweden is a Socialist Democracy. They are not incompatible.

By: JurisArcane

JurisArcane — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:25 +0000

Oh, and lest I give …
Oh, and lest I give your dumbass any sort of amunition whatsoever, that you may confuse yourself with having figured out something on your own, yes Im aware that many other petroleum products are drawn out first, propane, butane, natural gas, ISO butane, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

By: carltonjhodge

carltonjhodge — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:24 +0000

The government will …
The government will take my freedom, or my children’s freedom. Do you doubt that they will? Look all around you, human nature is what it is. History is littered with failed democracies, they never last more than 200 years.The people always vote themselves back into servitude. There is no such thing as a free lunch, government money ALWAYS comes with strings attached. We’ll give you this, but you have to do that…..no thanks.

By: carltonjhodge

carltonjhodge — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:24 +0000

Your aunt didn’t …
Your aunt didn’t have anyone who cared enough to help her make those decisions? I have family members I take care of. Apparently, somebody that was supposed to be responsible for her, because she couldn’t take care of herself, dropped the ball.

By: toddolavi

toddolavi — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:23 +0000

One trillion on …
One trillion on health care.
Thats 1,000,000 times 1,000,000…..just imagine if we PAID 1,000,000 people to become doctors, we could pay them &1,000,000 each to go to school and to start working. That would definately lower health care costs!

By: carltonjhodge

carltonjhodge — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:23 +0000

No, it does not. …
No, it does not. Look at Bernie Madoff. Criminals are criminals, it is painfully simple.

By: carltonjhodge

carltonjhodge — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:22:23 +0000

If they charged …
If they charged 100%, nobody would us their service, and they would go out of business. The market will only bear so much.